Friday, March 16, 2012

Post 2: Compare language from The Iliad and The Book Thief

Post 2: Compare language from The Iliad and The Book Thief

  • Read the section of The Iliad handed out in class and take notes on paper about the option 2 from The Book Thief handout.
  • Do the same for pages 154-204 in BT:

Option 2: List examples of imagery with page (line) numbers that help you see the main characters(s), the setting and the conflicts arising.

What to Post:
  1. You will post three examples of imagery from both texts.
  2. You will then explain how one example FROM EACH contributes to an understanding of the book it comes from.
  3. Lastly, what similarities do you find between these texts?
Review the grading policy at the top of the blog to ensure you get full credit! No second chances this time.

58 comments:

  1. Examples of imagery from the Book Thief
    1. "Her teeth elbowed each other for room in her mouth" (155)
    2. "He poured water onto the road in the exact position where Otto would pedal around the corner" (162)
    3. "skinny as a whittled broom handle" (187)

    Examples of imagery from the Iliad
    1. "The shafts clashed on the shoulders of the god walking angrily" (lines 46-47)
    2."the heart within filled black to the brim with anger from beneath" (lines 103-104)
    3. "the shadowy mountains and the echoing sea" (line 154)

    In the book, The Book Thief, the author uses imagery to give the reader a better understanding of the book. Rudy and Liesel were planning to rob a boy named Otto who always brought food to the priests. Rudy carefully "poured water onto the road in the exact position where Otto would pedal around the corner" (162). This is an example of imagery because I'm able to visual Rudy "pouring water" carefully in the place where Otto is suppose to go through. This helps me understand that the children want to successfully rob Otto and get his food. I also understand that these children are very hungry because they are choosing to commit a robbery.

    The author of the Iliad used imagery to help the reader get a clear understanding of the book. Agamemnon was angered when Kalchas, a prophet, told him that he has to give back Apollo's priestess that way Apollo won't be so angry with the Greeks. When he heard this, his "heart within filled black to the brim with anger from beneath" (lines 103-104). I imagine a heart that is originally red as blood turning black, from the bottom all the way to the top, until all of Agamemnon's heart has turned black. This helps me understand that Agamemnon has an anger management problem because he doesn't like to be told what to do and he gets mad in an instant. So I can infer that Agamemnon is going to be stubborn and not to what the prophet said to do.

    A similarity I noticed was that the authors use either metaphors or similes to compare things to each other. Like when Markus Zusak compares Max's skinny condition to a broom handle that is also very skinny. Zuask decided to use it in a form of a simile by using the words "as a". While Homer metaphorically says that Agamemnon's heart is turning black when in reality a heart can't turn black. But Homer decides no to use the words "as a" or "like" which makes it a metaphor. But either way they're comparing to unlikely things.

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  2. Examples from the Iliad:
    • "Pondering whether to draw from besides his thigh the sharp sword, driving away all those who stood between and kill the son of Atreus" (lines 185-187)
    • "Carrying across his shoulders the bow and the hooded quiver; and the shafts clashed on the shoulders of the god walking angrily. He came as night comes down and knelt then apart and opposite the ships and let go an arrow" (lines 45-48).
    • "We must haul a black ship down the bright sea, and assemble rowers enough for it, and put on board it the hecatomb, and the girl herself, Chryseis of the fair cheeks, and let there be one responsible main in charge of her" (lines 137-140)


    Examples from the Book Thief:
    • "The cologne sky was yellow and rotting, flaking at the edges. He sat propped against a wall with a child in his arms. His sister. When she stopped breathing, he stayed with her, and I could sense he would hold her for hours. There were two stolen apples in his pocket." (166-167).
    • "So yellow and tranquil, despite the violent architecture of his skull - the endless jaw line, stretching for miles; the pop-up cheekbones; and the pothole eyes" (188-189)
    • "She could see his face now, in the tired light. His mouth was open and his skin the color of eggshells. Whiskers coated his jaw and chin, and his ears were hard and flat. He had a small but misshapen nose" (201)

    Markus Zusak uses imagery in the Book Thief to help the reader understand a bigger message. For example, when a boy named Arthur Berg moves to a place named cologne. Arthur is known by the reader as the leader of a group of teens that steals food from farms. The narrator, death, states that even though Leisel and Rudy never saw him again he had seen him again, "the cologne sky was yellow and rotting, flaking at the edges. He sat propped against a wall with a child in his arms. His sister. When she stopped breathing, he stayed with her, and I could sense he would hold her for hours. There were two stolen apples in his pocket." (166-167). This example was the most visual for me. It really helped me see the setting and how things looked, not only the boy and the girl but their surroundings as well. It helps me understand that the boy, Arthur Berg really wasn’t a bad kid. He just had a lot of problems and was actually very kind and caring. It helped me understand that sometimes people see someone a certain way when in fact, they’re really the opposite.

    In the Iliad, homer uses imagery as well. He specifically uses imagery to help the reader see a character he is describing. For example, when he is describing Apollo he states that he is "carrying across his shoulders the bow and the hooded quiver; and the shafts clashed on the shoulders of the god walking angrily. He came as night comes down and knelt then apart and opposite the ships and let go an arrow" (lines 45-48). This example is the most visual for me because it is very descriptive about the way Apollo looked during that scene. It helped me understand that he is really powerful and that at the moment, he was angry. Homer portrays him as a threating, intimidating and powerful person. Overall, Homer’s use of imagery helps me understand how a person is by the way he portrays him/her.

    • A similarity I’ve noticed between the two texts, the Book Thief and Iliad, is that they both have a certain structural choice. Both Markus Zusak and Homer indent at certain points throughout the story.
    • Another similarity is that they both use a form of allusion. They state certain names of places or people from places in order to help the reader understand the scene.

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    1. I agree with you on the “Arthur Berg” reference. It also made me see how that he wasn’t a bad kid and that he was just looking out for his loved ones. You too also noticed the “two apples”
      Do you think that these “two apples” reveal more about his character and something deeper than just what lurks in the context?

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    2. I think they do. Since the author took the liberty of writing it, i think it's a sort of symbol. I mean, why else would he include it if it wasn't important. Also, he made it the last sentence of that part so it must have a deeper meaning.

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    3. i cant fully agree with ur
      "They state certain names of places or people from places in order to help the reader understand the scene"
      since in Book Theif, it switches point of views and doesnt really stated the obvious names.

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  3. Example of imagery from The Book Theif:
    - "They took potatoes frim one farm, onions from another" (161)
    - "If they killed him tonight, atleast he would die alive" (168)
    - "The town hall stood like a giant ham-fisted youth, too big for his age" (169)

    Examples from Iliad:
    - "Angered in his heart, carrying across his shoulders the bow and the hooded quiver" (45-46)
    -"His two eyes showed like fire in their blazing" (105)
    - "Athene desended from the sky" (190-191)

    In the book theif the author uses imagery to give a better understanding of the book and the time period. Rudy and Lisel had to steal to surive so "they took potatoes from one farm, onions from another" (161). This helps the reader see times are rough and they had to steal in order to survive. This helped me understand and picture two skinny people going throughout farms stealing potatoes and onions to eat.

    In Iliad Homer also uses imagery to give a better understanding of the main conflict. Apollo,"angered in his heart, carrying across his shoulders the bow and the hodded quiver" (45-46). This shows Apollo is angered and is desending to earth with a bow and a quiver ready for battle. When a person is ready for battle they are angered and prepared for war.

    A similarity is the authors both use a similar theme. of survival through the main characters. In Iliad Achilleus wants to leave to save himself and in the Book Thief Lisel and Rudy both steal to survive. AAlso both authors use comparaisons such as similies and metaphores to compare the characters.

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    1. How does "if they killed him tonight, at least he would die alive" help you visualize the plot/setting?

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    2. Adding to your idea of themes, Zusak and Homer share the theme of change and revolution. During Nazi Germany many people were involved in the party but not everyone. This led to beginning of questioning their surroundings because there were things behind Hitler`s strategies that the people that followed him didnt know about.

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    3. I agree with Lily, how does that quote help visualize? I think that if you pay attention to the parts before it, that quote can help you visualize Max where he was and him being frightened. Since it talks about death, it makes the reader get a feeling of sadness and worry. Therefore, when the quote says “at least he would die alive” you can imagine him not being as depressed as he would have been if he was killed before, along with the other Jews. He could have a face of satisfaction for making it that far and for having great friends who helped him along the way. I guess it could really be seen as either a negative thing because of death, but a positive thing because he was alive.

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  4. Natalie Hachicho

    Examples of Imagery In The Book Thief :
    -" Glowing pockets of streetlights. Dark passive buildings.The town hall stood like a giant ham-fisted youth, too big for his age. The church disappeared in darkness the farther his eyes traveled upward." (169)

    -"His clothes seemed to weigh him down, and his tiredness was such that an itch could break him in two.He stood shaking and shaken in the doorway" ( 185)

    -"His mouth was open and his skin the color of eggshells. Whiskers coated his jaw and chin, and his ears were hard and flat. He had a small but misshapen nose" (201)

    The author of the book uses imagery to help give the reader a better understanding of what is going on in the book. Such as the setting, the description of the character, you can sense the characters emotions. When you visualize, picture in your head, you feel like your in the story yourself and you are witnessing what is going on. Therefore you understand more of what the author is trying to convey to his readers.
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    Example of Imagery from the lliad

    -"the heart within filled black to the brim with anger from beneath, but his two eyes showed like fire in their blazing."(103-104)

    -"Carrying across his shoulders the bow and the hooded quiver;and the shafts clashed on the shoulders of the god walking angrily." (45-47).

    -"The shadowy mountains and the echoing sea" (154)

    The author for Iliad uses imagery the same reason why the author from the book thief. The purpose why the author used imagery in his writing was to describe the scene better for the reader to comprehend and and get an actual image of the scene he wrote.
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    The similarities i noticed between the two texts were there use of strong diction. They use diction to emphasize the message and tone of the story. Another thing i noticed is that both texts express biases.

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      What bias are shown? If there is what evidence do you have?

      I sort of agree with you on the diction part, but the word "strong" doesn't always apply to Zusak's work. Sometimes, Zusak makes imagery without sophisticated word.

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    2. I would also like to know how bias is shown in these texts.
      To Wai Wing Lau:
      The word "strong" doesn't necessarily mean that Zusak is using "sophisticated" words. I think what Natalie was trying to say was the way that these two texts use good and specific diction choices to convey their message.

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  5. Examples from The Book Thief:
    -“He wasted no time in losing control of the bike, sliding across the ice, and lying facedown on the road” (163)
    -“Erik Vandenburg would later be found in several pieces on a grassy hill. His eyes were open and his wedding ring was stolen. I shoveled up his soul with the rest of them and we drifted away. The horizon was the color of milk. Cold and fresh. Poured out among the bodies” (175)
    -“Walter Kugler was on the ground, his blond hair peppered with dirt. His legs were parted in a V. Tears like crystal floated down his skin, despite the fact that he was not crying. The tears had been bashed out of him.” (191)

    Examples from Iliad:
    -“The goddess standing behind Peleus’ son caught him by the fair hair, appearing to him only, for no man of the other s saw her. Achilleus in amazement turned about, straightway knew Pallas Athene and the terrible eyes shining.” (193- 196)
    -“He spoke, and laid his heavy hand on the silver sword hilt and thrust his great blade into the scabbard nor disobeyed the word of Athene.” (215- 217)
    -“Then stricken at heart thought you be, you will be able to do nothing, when in their numbers before man slaughtering Hektor they drop and die.” (238- 240)
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    In The book Thief, the man, Otto Strum was caught in Rudy’s trap; he slipped in the ice while he rode his bike to the Church. The ice caused Otto to lose control of his bike and had him fall down, “facedown on the road”. This lets me imagine the pain that Otto received when he fell; it was a cold winter, that’s why the water was able to turn into ice on the road. When he fell I can see him yell due to the pain in the hard, cold ground. This helped me understand the situation that Otto was in because the sudden even cause him to not notice Rudy stealing his basket of food.

    In Iliad, when Peleus’ son, Achilleus was describing Hektor, he called him “slaughtering” which makes him fearful. This helped me grasp the idea that he is powerful and will become very important later on in the story, or is currently very important. That means that remembering this character will help the reader understand the situation between the gods and humans better.

    What similarity that I found between these two texts is that both authors do not explain things very thoroughly and wants the reader to interpret based on the information given by the previous lines. These texts also have verbs that describe the situation and let the reader picture what each person is doing. Unlike essays, the author is not being very specific in explaining, so the reader will be able make inferences and predictions on the information they are given.

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    1. I agree with you Sammi, the writer wants to keep his reader guessing by giving them hints or clues that foreshadow the future. However I only see it in The Book Thief. Could you give me some examples from Iliad?

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  6. Examples of imagery from The Book Thief
    • "Outside, they unwrapped it and tried biting it in half, but the sugar was like glass, Far too tough, even for Rudy's animal-like choppers." (155)
    • "Hans looked at the knuckles of his right hand and swallowed. He could already taste the error, like a metal tablet in his mouth." (182)
    • "Blood discolored his lips. It would soon be dried across his teeth" (190)
    Zusak uses imagery in The Book Thief in order to paint a picture for the reader and explain the characters relationship. Zusak uses the phrase, "Blood discolored his lips. It would soon be dried across his teeth" (190) to describe the situation Max and Kugler were in. The boys were fighting ruthlessly, enough to “discolor [Max’s] lips”. Even though Max was bleeding, the two continued to jab each other. From this event, one could tell the boys did not like each other very much.

    Examples of imagery from The Iliad
    • "He spoke, and laid his heavy hand on the silver sword hilt and thrust the great blade back into the scabbard nor disobeyed the word of Athene" (215-216)
    • "Since indeed there is much that lies between us, the shadowy mountains and the echoing sea; but for your sake, o great shamelessness, we followed, to do your favor, you with the dog's eyes, to win your honor and Menelaos from the Trojans." (153-156)
    • "Terrible was the clash that rose from the bow of silver." (49)
    Homer uses imagery in “The Iliad” to describe a character’s actions and interactions. Achilleus “laid his heavy hand on the silver sword hilt and thrust the great blade back into the scabbard nor disobeyed the word of Athene” (215-216). Archilleus returned his “great blade back into the scabbard” because he was obeying the goddess. Archilleus believed fighting the gods would be worthless so he returned his sword. With the description of this event, readers would understand why Achilleus did as he did.

    These texts are similar in that they both use similar structural choices. The two texts choose to indent in certain places and not others. Homer does not indent at every paragraph but indents when there is only one word in one line. (191) Zusak indents more often.

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    1. Yes, I agree with you. Especially the structure in Book Thief, those notes in bold.

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    2. I agree with you on the Book Thief since imagery was used to describe the feelings of the characters like when Liesel saw her mothers reaction when "Liesel, from the hallway, could see the drawn face of the stranger, and behind it, the worried expression scribbled like a mess onto Mama"(198).

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  7. Examples of imagery in The Book Thief

    1. "With a clean-shaven face and lopsided yet neatly combed hair he walked out of that building a new man." (159)
    2."The Cologne sky was yellow and rotting, flaking at the edges." (166)
    3.Far off, they could still hear the sound of deserting feet when an extra hand grabbed the wire and reefed it away from Rudy Steiner's pants." (165)



    Examples of imagery in Illiad

    1. "carrying across his shoulders the bow and the hooded quiver;and the shafts clashed on the shoulders of the god walking angrily." (line 45-48)
    2. ""We must haul a black ship down the bright sea, and assemble rowers enough for it, and put on board it the hecatomb, and the girl herself, Chryseis of the fair cheeks, and let there be one responsible main in charge of her" (lines 137-140)
    3. "the shadowing mountains and the echoing sea" (line 153)


    The author of Illiad uses imagery to help the reader get a clear understanding of the book. Homer uses "the shadowing mountains and the echoing sea" (line 153) to have his readers visualize the scene in their mind when reading Illiad. This will help the readers visualize what the scene in this part of the book feels and looks like.


    The author of The Book Thief uses imagery to help the reader have a clear understanding of the characters and setting. Zusak uses "With a clean-shaven face and lopsided yet neatly combed hair he walked out of that building a new man." (159) to help his readers visualize what Max Vendenburg looks like. In the scene Zusak describes how Max looked like when he had left his building to go in with Liesel and the Hubermanns. Zusak is showing how since Max looks like a new person because he shaved and combed his hair, that meant to me that he will have a new beginning with the Hubermanns.

    -Similarities between The Book Thief and Illiad is both authors use similes and metaphors to compare two unlike subjects.
    -Another similarity between these two texts is both authors use imagery to help them describe the setting or character.

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    1. Amani, Homer's use of imagery in "The Iliad", how did it help you understand the scene? When you felt and saw the scene, how did it help you?
      Oh, and interesting point about how Max's new look can symbolize Max starting a new beginning with the Hubermanns. I didn't even perceive that from the text when I first read it.

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    2. What examples of metaphors/similes were used in the texts?

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  8. Examples of imagery from the Iliad:
    1.“…Agamemnon raging, the heart within filled black to the brim with anger from beneath, but his two eyes showed like fire in their blazing. “ (103-104)
    2.“…we must haul a black ship down to the bright sea… and put on board it the hecatomb, and the girl herself, Chryeis of the fair cheeks…” (137-139)
    3.“…that lies between us, the shadowy mountains and the echoing sea…” (154)

    Homer, author of the Iliad, uses imagery to set a picture in the readers mind and help them understand the text better. When Homer describes the “shadowy mountains and the echoing sea” (154), I as the reader, could imagine really tall and enormous mountains that can cast shadows from the sun. I can also imagine wide and long seas with emptiness around it causing the faintest sounds to make echoes. Through this image and sounds, I can understand that the Greeks, where Achilleus lives, are isolated from the Trojans which can make it difficult for the Trojans to attack the Greeks.



    Examples of imagery from The Book Thief:
    1.“Her hair was tied back and her black dress chocked her body” (155)
    2.“Far too tough, even for Rudy’s animal-like choppers.” (155)
    3.“Sweat was swimming out of his hands” (157)

    Markus Zusak uses imagery and figurative language to create a picture in the reader’s mind as well, and helps the reader to understand the predicaments or the scenes present in the novel. When Zusak talks about Max, the Jew, he explains that while he was on the train, “sweat was swimming out of his hands” (157). I can imagine a lot of sweat pouring out of his hands as a reaction to his nerves acting up. I understand that Max is really frightened and nervous and the imagery Zusak provides also helps the readers conclude the danger and threatening life the Jews lived in during the Holocaust.

    The similarities that I’ve noticed between “The Iliad” and The Book Thief, is that they both have similar themes of inequality. In “The Iliad”, Achilleus is angry of the inequality given between Agamemnon and himself. While Agamemnon doesn’t put himself in the battles to defend his citizens, he ends up getting a larger prize and honor then Achilleus, who does go to battle and risks his life. In The Book Thief, Max Vandenburg also experiences inequality. As a Jew living in Nazi Germany, he is segregated and is living in fear compared to the Aryan Germans. Max had to shave his face and fix his hair in a Germen-looking way so he can let the day pass by and take the next train without being held back.
    Additionally, similarities between “The Iliad” and The Book Thief is that both authors use imagery, metaphors/similes, personification and other figurative languages that helps create a picture in the reader’s mind to fully understand the scene, tone, characters and setting.

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    1. We should look for the similarities of structure choice and literary devices, or theme?

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  9. Imagery from The Book Thief:
    "Her hair was tied back and her black dress choked her body. The framed photo of the fübrer kept watch from the wall." (155)

    "In front of him, he read from the copy of Mein Kampf. His savior. Sweat was swimming out of his hands. Fingermarks clutched the book." (157)

    "It was no longer a straight log but a kind of Z shape, reaching diagonally from corner to corner." (201)

    The imagery that the author uses help the reader understand the text. In the book, the Jew Max escaped from his town and on the way to find Hans for help. Wile he is on the train, the author describes the setting, " in front of him, he read from the copy of Mein Kampf. His savior. Sweat was swimming out of his hands. Fingermarks clutched the book" (157).This is a imagery because it gives the reader a detail description about what going on to Max. This help the readers visualize how nervous that Max is. He is sweating and holding th book tight. This example helps the reader understand Max's action and mind.

    Imagery form The Lliad
    "angered in his heart, carrying across his shoulders the bow and the hooded quiver." (line 45-46)
    "He came as night comes down and knelt then apart and opposite the ships and let go an arrow." (line 47-48)
    “the goddess standing behind Peleus's son caught him by the fair hair, appearing to him only, for no man of the others saw her." ( line 193-194)

    The imagery that the author used help the reader understand the situation. Apollo punished the Greek’s soldier for take way the priestess. The author described this scene as “he came as night comes down and knelt then apart and opposite the ships and let go an arrow" (line 47-48). Apollo came and used his arrow to punish Greek. This help the readers visualize how powerful that Apollo is when he came and destroy the army. The readers also can draw an imagery in their mind how strong and scared that god’s power is. The author used Imargy to introduce god’s power.

    Homer and Zusak used simile in the texts. In The book Thief, the Jew Max arrivals and sleep in the Han’s house. Zusak describes his sleeping position as “ no longer a straight log but a kind of Z shape” (201). The author compares Max’s sleeping position to straight log and Z shape. In the poem, The lliad, Homer also used simile. When Homer describes Apollo, he wrote, “he came as night comes down” (line 47). Homer describes Apollo as night which is a form of simile.

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    1. I agree with you because many times over, both authors seem to use the literary device over and over again. Countless times, there is a little simile to characterize a character.

      One question I have for you:
      The evidence you chose to show "no longer a straight log but a kind of Z shape" (201); are you sure that is a use of a simile?

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    2. Question for Wai Wing and everyone, why would these two authors continuously use the same literary device again and again and why not use any other type of literary device to reveal their meaning of their stories?

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  10. Examples of imagery from The Book Thief:
    - “Glowing pockets of streetlights. Dark passive buildings.” (168)

    - “The house was pale, almost sick-looking, with an iron gate and a brown spit-stained door.”
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    - "The horizon was the color of milk. Cold and fresh. Poured out among the bodies.” (175)

    In the novel The Book Thief, the author uses many examples of imagery to help the readers better understand the plot and to help them visualize the story. The narrator death describes the time during the war where Hans' great friend Erik Vandenburg had passed away on a grassy hill along with other soldiers. As he carried his soul away, “the horizon was the color of milk, cold and fresh, poured out among the bodies” (175). This example of imagery in this particular scene helped me understand a bigger message on how there were many deaths during the war. It also created a devastating mood and helped me understand the great impact brought by the war.

    Examples of imagery from The Iliad:
    - “Agamemnon raging, the heart within filled black to the brim with anger from beneath, but his two eyes showed like fire in their blazing.” (103-104)

    - “The shadowy mountains and the echoing sea” (154)

    - “He spoke, and laid his heavy hand on the silver sword hilt and thrust the great blade back into the scabbard nor disobeyed the word of Athene.” (215-217)

    Homer also uses many examples of imagery in the Iliad to give a clearer understanding of the characters. One particular piece of imagery that helped me understand the character of Agamemnon was where he was described as “raging, the heart filled black to the brim with anger from beneath, but his two eyes showed like fire in the blazing” (103-104). This helped me picture how angry Agamemnon actually was with the fire in his eyes and his heart turning black. This tells me that Agamemnon is short tempered and not very calm. By knowing this it will probably help me when reading the rest of the Iliad since now I know Agamemnon's character.

    The Book Thief and The Iliad are similar because both texts are based on war. The Book Thief is based on WWII while The Iliad is based on the Trojan war. The authors of both texts also uses many similar literary techniques such as imagery and also metaphors and similes. These literary techniques contribute to the reader's understanding of the text.

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    1. By understanding that Agamemnon is short-tempered and not very calm, it can help us predict what is possible to happen later in the poem. Do you think Agamemnon would mistreat or go against Achilleus later, due to his anger towards him?

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    2. Do you think the fact that their both about war makes them more similar then different since both take place in completely different time periods?

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    3. Isn't there a bigger message to the Book Thief? Since the book isn't just talking about the deaths of the war, it is also talking about the control Hitler had over the German citizens and a girls attempt to read and write books. I feel that the message is something relevant to Hitlers dictatorship and Liesel's attempt to change Germany.

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  11. Examples of imagery in The Illiad:

    "Over and over the old man prayed as he walked in solitude/to King Apollo, whom Leto of the lovely hair bore..." (Homer 35-36)

    "...Apollo heard him,/and strode down along the pinnacles of Olympos...carrying...the bow and the hooded quiver;...the shafts clashed on the shoulders of the god walking/angrily" (Homer 43-47).

    "...Achilleus of the swift feet stood up among them [Greeks] and spoke forth..." (Homer 58)

    Homer, the author of The Illiad, incorporates the literary device of imagery in many of pieces of his epic. When Homer narrates in his story that Achilleus made a meeting, he dubbed it "...Achilleus of the swift feet stood up among them [Greeks] and spoke forth..." (Homer 58). This imagery can be visualized given the word choice of "swift feet" and it was Achilleus who "stood up among them." This creates a picture of a real hero and leader in the reader's head, just as Homer intended to do.

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  12. Examples of Imagery in The Book Thief:

    "...Liesel made her way to the corridor, and what she saw truly amazed her, because Rosa Hubermann was at Max Vanderburg's shoulder, watching him gulp down her infamous pea soup" (Zusak 197).

    "Max gave him every last pfennig to make the trip, and a few days later, when Walter returned, they embraced before he held his breath" (Zusak 195).

    "Max..fighting style was utterly graceless, all bent over, nudging forward, throwing fast punches at the face of Kugler" (Zusak 190).

    Markus Zusak implements the literary device of imagery in many parts of his novel. When Zusak shows the reader the past of the German Jew, Max Vandenburg, Zusak describes Max's fighting style against Kugler "utterly graceless, all bent over, nudging forward, throwing fast punches" (Zusak 190). Though there is little diction, the reader can visualize the fight, Max, the German Jew in his youth, fighting against Kugler.

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  13. One such similarity that I have seen between literary texts, The Book Thief and The Illiad, is the use of similes and metaphors. Many times as I read the novel (The Book Thief) and the epic (The Illiad), I cannot help but notice the authors use the literary devices many times over. When the authors try to compare their characters to something negative or positive, Zusak and Homer would use similes and metaphors, comparing their own characters to something.

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  14. The book thief
    -He had his first about when he was eleven years old and skinny as a whittled broom handle (187)
    -He was nearly two years old when his father died, shot to pieces on a grassy hill. 188
    -The horizon was the color of milk. Cold and fresh. Poured among the bodies. (175)
    The author of The Book Thief, Markus Zusak, uses imagery to contribute to the understanding of the book. Max, a Jew, grew up loving to fight. He started at a young age. His first fight occurred when he was “eleven years old and skinny as a whittled broom handle” (187). Even though Max was as skinny as a whittled broom he still faught other kids. This helps the reader understand the book because they can visually see Max as a week young boy, but still willing to fight. This helps the reader understand the characteristics of Max. Zusak uses imagery in his to book to help the reader understand the characters, the message and the tone of the book.

    Iliad
    “..The heart within filled black to the brim with anger from beneath, but his two eyes showed like fire in their blazing” (103-104)
    “Since indeed there is much that lies between us, the shadowy mountains and the echoing sea” (153-154)
    “We must haul a black ship down to the bright sea” (137)
    Homer the author of Iliad uses imagery in his poem. Agamemnon was mad at Kalchas his “heart within filled black to the brim with anger from beneath, but his two eyes showed like fire in their blazing” (103-104). Homer uses imagery in the poem to help describe how Agamemnon felt when he was mad at Kalchas. This helps the reader understand the characters mood, and also helps the author develop a tone. When the reader figures out the tone of the book helps the reader understand the book/message better. Without imagery the reader would not be able to understand the message as clearly as the reader could when they read it with imagery. Homer uses imagery to help the reader get a better understanding of the poem.
    Both the authors, Homer and Zusak, use imagery simile and metaphors to help develop their message. Both authors also have “fictional” characters, the Gods and death. They both use literary devices and structural techniques to help develop their message. They both also use diction chocies to help develop their ideas.

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  15. Examples of Imagery from The Book Thief:
    "Still with red tongues and teeth, they walked down Himmel street, happily searching the ground as they went" (156).
    "Rudy held the fatty ham to his nose and breathed it gloriously in" (163).
    "The girl began to sob so uncontrollably that Papa was dying to pull her into him and hug her tight. He didn't" (204).

    Marcus Zusak uses imagery to help the reader visualize the hard times that are going on during Nazi Germany. Liesel has already experienced this with her mom, her missing father and her dead brother when they were taken away for being communist. The reason why Liesel was crying so uncontrollably was because she doesn't want the same thing to happen to Papa. This quote helps me with the understanding of this time period because it allows me to visualize all the suffering and pain that people were going through during Nazi Germany.
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    Examples of Imagery from the Illiad:
    "The heart within filled black to the brim with anger from beneath, but his two eyes showed like fire in their blazing" (Homer, line 103)
    "Come, now, we must haul a black ship down to the bright sea" (Homer, line 137)
    "For Hera the goddess of the white arms sent her, who loved both men equally in her heart and cared for them" (Homer, line 192)
    Homer uses imagery to describe the physical appearances of his characters. As he says that "the heart is filled with black to the brim with anger". This helps me visualize the absolute anger that there is in Agamemnon's heart. It helps me have a better understanding of his appearance and traits.
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    The similarities that I see in these texts is the use of figurative language. Markus Zusak and Homer both use imagery to convey the message of their story. Homer uses imagery to illustrate the Trojan War. Which will also count as allusion because is referring back to the Trojan War which was an historical event. Similarly, Zusak uses imagery to convey the message of Nazi Germany. He wants us to visualize the way life was during this time period and all the things that people who were not involved in the Nazi party went through.

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    1. A comment on your similarities response. The Iliad was written about the Trojan war, which means the entirety of the poem is about the war. I feel that Homer’s imagery in the poem shouldn’t count as an allusion because the whole poem was the Trojan war. It would seem to be redundant for the imagery to be an allusion since the Trojan war is The Iliad

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  16. This was a re-post, under period 8!-Leslie

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  17. Examples of imagery from The Book Thief:
    - “Outside they unwrapped it and tried biting it in half, but the sugar was like glass” (155)
    - “Of course, there was also the scratchy feeling of sin” (169)
    - “Her plump figure glowed with worry” (197)

    Examples of imagery from The Book Thief:
    - “Outside they unwrapped it and tried biting it in half, but the sugar was like glass” (155)
    - “Of course, there was also the scratchy feeling of sin” (169)
    - “Her plump figure glowed with worry” (197)

    Examples of imagery from The Iliad:
    - “He blames us, if given the fragrant smoke of lambs, of goats” (65-66)
    - “Come, now, we must haul a black ship down to the bright sea, and assemble rowers enough for it”( 137- 138)
    - “Laid his heavy hand on the silver sword hilt and thrust the great blade back into the scabbard” (215- 216)

    In the novel, The Book Thief, Mark Zusak uses imagery to allow the reader to have a better understanding of the story. When Max Vandenburg came to the Hubermann’s home, Mama fed the boy. During the meal, “her plump figure glowed with worry” (197). The use of imagery allowed me to see that something was going on in Mama’s mind. It’s because of the phrase “glowed with worry” that allowed me to think about what could be affecting Mama. I would soon understand that the worry connects to her saving feeding a Jewish boy and the consequences that would follow in hiding the child. Zusak’s use of imagery gave me a better understanding of the story.

    In the poem, The Iliad, Homer also uses imagery to allow the reader to have a better understanding of the story. Athene came to Achilleus and spoke to him about not killing Agamemnon. In return, Achilleus “laid his heavy hand of the silver hilt and thrust the great blade back into the scabbard” (215-216). Homer made me see an enraged man with a “heavy hand” because he seemed reluctant in sheathing his weapon. The word “thrust” made it seem that his anger controlled the blade, pushing it back in the scabbard with great force. Homer’s imagery made me see that even though Achilleus is furious, the words of a God are respected. Even as the greatest warrior of Greece, he still obeys the speaking of Athene.

    Similarities between both texts are that they both make the reader interpret their writing. They don’t blatantly say the topic, but actually refer to it as a symbol or personified it. Like in The Iliad, Homer wrote about Apollo, a god, shooting arrows at the Achaians. He referred to a plague killing off the Greeks, but no were did it say a plague fell upon men. The same thing appeared in The Book Thief, Death was personified, but never stated in the book that the narrator was Death. Through the reading, Zusak gave Death human characteristics to make Death seem it was a person. It is clear that both authors wanted the reader to interpret their writing.

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    1. Other than just interpretating their writing, the author might have just wanted the reader to see the story told from a different perspective.

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    2. I agree to your statement Leslie, the author in the Book Thief uses death as the narrator of this entire story so far. He probably did this on purpose to see how all of these perspectives from Liesel and her foster parents to Max Verdenburg and so on to fit together as a big picture.

      Why would the author purposely chose the narrator to be death and why would the author want the reader to see the story from a different perspective rather than a single perspective?

      Why would the author leave some perspectives out?

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  18. Examples from the Iliad:
    -“the heart within filled black to the brim with anger from beneath, but his two eyes showed like fire in their blazing. “(103)
    -”And the anger came on Peleus’ son, and within his shaggy breast the heart was divided two ways”(185)
    -“And then you will eat out the heart within you in sorrow”(241)

    Examples From The Book Thief:
    -”The light in the window was gray and orange, the color of summer’s skin, and his uncle appeared relieved when his breathing disappeared completely.”(189)
    -”Money was clutched in filthy fingers, and calls and cries were filled with such vitality that there was nothing else but this.” (190)
    -”The fear is shiny. Ruthless in the eyes.”(199)

    In the Iliad Homers literary choices such as using imagery, portray a message that helps understand the characters. For example when describing Achilles reaction he writes ”And the anger came on Peleus’ son, and within his shaggy breast the heart was divided two ways”.(185) This gives the reader information on Achilles character based on Homer’s perspective. This shows that Achilles is prideful and short tempered since he became angry when Agamemnon insults him in front of everyone. Homer also insults his physic when he describes Achilles as having “shaggy breast”. This gives the reader the impression that Achilles isn’t as strong or mighty as everyone believes. As warrior should be describes as strong, fierce and muscular not as “shaggy”. Over all Homer depicts Achilles in a negative light through his choice in diction.

    In The Book Thief Mark Zusak also uses imagery as a literary device to help the reader understand the book. For example when he describes the children that were watching Max fight, ”Money was clutched in filthy fingers, and calls and cries were filled with such vitality that there was nothing else but this.” (190) What this tells the reader about the boys is that their young and don’t understand the seriousness of real fighting. They take it as a game which they can bet on and make money off of other’s pain. Zusak shows their youth by describing them as having “filthy fingers” because when your young you don’t care about your appearance. He shows their ignorance when their watching the fight betting “money” on it. Money is something adults usually worry about but yet you see children betting and gambling. Thy don’t see the error that their making by wasting their money and watching each other get hurt.

    Some similarities I found between The Book Thief and Iliad are the violence and how lightly it’s talked about. They take about money and rewards as if fighting is a sport or enjoyable. Another similarity is their choices in Literary devices, like imagery, metaphors,similes and repetition.

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  19. Jennifer Garcia
    Honors Humanities 8

    Imagery examples for The Book Thief:

    1. “ By the time they were finished, both their mouths were exaggerated red, and as they walked home, they remained each other to keep their eyes peeled, in case they found another coin”(156).

    2. “Rudy held the fatty ham to his nose and breathed it gloriously in”(163).

    3. “His clothes seemed to weight him down, his tiredness was such that an inch could break him in two. He stood shaking and shaken in the doorway” (185).

    In the novel The Book Thief, Markus Zusak uses imagery in order for the reader to have better understand of the text. Imagery is descriptive language that appeals to one of the five senses. In the novel, Max Vandenburg, is a Jew that is hiding from the Nazis. Hans Hubermann used to be a solider in France. There is where he met Erick Vandenburg. Erick Vandenburg saved Hans life, so in order to repay him Hans goes to his wife house and gives her his address. He tells her that if she ever needs help, he will help her. Now that Hitler has gain power, thousands of Jews are being murdered. This is the time when Erick Vandenburg son needs help. Max needs a place where he can hide from the Nazi and goes on a terrifying journey to the Hubermann’s house for help. Max finally reaches Himmel Street and “His clothes seemed to weight him down, his tiredness was such that an inch could break him in two. He stood shaking and shaken in the doorway” (185). Zusak uses imagery to show how much Nazism has affected the Jewish. I picture a skinny man, who has a scared look in his face because of what is to become of him. I picture the Jewish man unable to open the door because he is shaking too much. Markus Zusak uses Imagery so the reader can better understand the situation the Jewish man is in and how he feels.
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    Imagery examples for The Iliad:

    1. “He came as night comes down and knelt then apart and opposite the ships and let go of an arrow” (L. 47-48)

    2. “Then looking darkly at him Achilleus of the swift feet spoke…”(L.144)

    3. “…The shadowy mountains and the echoing sea…” (153).

    In The Iliad , Homer uses imagery to help the reader visualize the text. The daughter of a priest that worships Apollo was kidnapped by Agamemnon. Agamemnon refused to return Chryse because she was his prize. The old priest prayed to Apollo, and wishes that Apollo’s arrows make the Greeks pay for his tears. Apollo hears the priest prayers and “He came as night comes down and knelt then apart and opposite the ships and let go of an arrow” (L. 47-48). Homer uses imagery to show how mad was Apollo when he heard the priest’s payer. When I think of the night, I think of darkness, which to me signifies death and that is frightening. I picture Apollo coming from the sky, wearing a dark clothes, with his arrow ready to shoot somebody. Homer uses this imagery to show the reader how much the kidnap of Chryse affected Apollo.

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    Similarities:
    The Book Thief and The Iliad have similarities in theme and literary devices. In the Book Thief and The Iliad the authors use the theme of war. In the novel, it is WWII and in The Iliad is the war between the Greeks and the Trojans. Also, the authors used literary devices such as imagery, similes, metaphors, and allusions in their text. These devices help the reader better picture and understand the text they are reading.

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  20. Examples from The Book Thief:
    -“The girl began to sob so uncontrollably that Papa was dying to pull her into him and hug her tight” (204).
    -“He was nearly two years old when his father died, shot to pieces on a grassy hill” (188).
    -"His mouth was open and his skin the color of eggshells” (208).
    In the novel The book Thief Markus Zusak uses imagery to create a picture in the readers head, and help them figure out what is going on in the scene that they are reading. When it says “The girl began to sob so uncontrollably that Papa was dying to pull her into him and hug her tight” (204). This puts an image in my head were the father is desperately wanting to help his daughter because she is “sobbing uncontrollably.” I can also imagine the love that “Papa” has for Liesel because of how he wants to “hug her tight.” Since the little girl is sobbing a lot the reader can indicate that she is sad or something bad has happened.
    Examples from the lliad:
    -"His two eyes showed like fire in their blazing" (line 105)
    - "Pondering whether to draw from besides his thigh the sharp sword, driving away all those who stood between and kill the son of Atreus" (lines 185-187)
    -"the heart within filled black to the brim with anger from beneath" (lines 103-104)
    In the lliad the author Homer uses imagery to help the reader understand the text better. When it states “Pondering whether to draw from besides his thigh the sharp sword, driving away all those who stood between and kill the son of Atreus” (line 105). I can imagine Hector prince of Troy so angry that he is killing everybody in his path. He can’t wait until he strikes down the “son of Atreus” which is Achilles. The reader can also imagine the hate that he has for him because of how he is cutting everyone “who stood in his way” to get to Achilles.
    Similarities:
    The Book Thief and the lliad both have literary devices that they share. The literary device that the share in common is imagery. By using imagery the authors of both the novel and lliad help the reader understand the texts better. By understanding the text better the reader won’t be confused and they will want to read more.

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  21. The Book Thief:
    -"The Cologne sky was yellow and rotting, flaking at the edges. He sat propped against a wall with a child in his arms." (165).
    -"The house was pale, almost sick-looking, with an iron gate and a brown spit-stained door." (170).
    -"He followed him over to the right and jabbed him once more and opened him up with a punch that reached into his ribs." (191).

    In "The Book Thief", Markus Zusak uses imagery to help introduce new characters to the novel. Max was a Jew that was constantly involved in fights with Walter during their childhood. Max has lost to Walter many times. However, in one of the fights, Max "followed him over to the right and jabbed him once more and opened him up with a punch that reached into his ribs." (191). The action's of Max develops his character in the novel. When Max "opened him up with a punch that reached into his ribs", it shows that he's strong willed. Max failed to beat Walter in a fight. When a person fails at something, you would think that they've lost their will to hold on and keep fighting. Max, however, never lost hope. He fought till the very end and he finally won.

    The Iliad:
    -"He spoke thus and sat down again, and among them stood up Atreus' son the hero wide-ruling Agamemnon raging, the heart within filled black to the brim with anger from beneath, but his two eyes showed like fire in their blazing" (101-104).
    -"For Hera the goddess of the white arms sent her, who loved both men equally in her heart and cared for them." (192-193).
    -"He spoke, and laid his heavy hand on the silver sword hilt and thrust the great blade back into the scabbard nor disobeyed the word of Athene." (215-217).

    Imagery used in the "Iliad" helped develop characters. Agamemnon had a "heart within filled black to the brim with anger from beneath, but his two eyes showed like fire in their blazing" (101-104). When the author said that Agamemnon's "heart within filled black to the brim with anger", it shows that he's dangerous. His brain wasn't filled with anger, but his heart was. Your brain is what controls your actions, but your heart is involuntary. In the same way, his heart is filled with anger, meaning his anger is uncontrollable.

    Similarities between The Book Thief and Iliad were the use of literary devices. Both used metaphors, similes, repetition, and imagery. Also, both books involve war, like WWII and the Trojan war.

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    1. why do you think the author sueggest the setting as in a war?
      can anyone kinda give a prediction?

      An epic poem is about a hero, where the hero shows of courge/ bravery. this characteristic didnt have to be in a war, it could have been in a tradgy like romeo and juliet.

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    2. Well answering your first question Simon, I think that the auhtor used war as the setting because it semed best fit for his idea of showing literary devices and structure. Wars seem to give abit more of understanding to people since it is a subject that people tend to forget. Therefore when talking about war it might get the reaaders attention more. Did this sort of answer your question?
      Also what do you mean prediction? prediction of the outcome?
      Erick Bonilla period 8

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  22. Examples of imagery from “The Book Thief”
    1. “They stood outside Frau Diller’s, against the whitewashed wall” (154)
    2. “Liesel arrived and started pulling at the fabric of his pants” (165)
    3. “When she reentered the bedroom to fetch her clothes, the body in the opposite bed had turned and curled up” (201)
    Examples of imagery from “The Iliad”
    1. “goddess of the white arms, Hera” (line 55)
    2. “the heart filled black to the brim with anger from beneath, but his two eyes showed like fire in their blazing” (lines 104-105)
    3. “we must haul a black ship down to the bright sea” (line 137)
    4. “the shadowy mountains and the echoing sea” (line 154)
    In The Book Thief, Markus Zusak uses imagery to give the reader a better understanding and visual sense of what is going on in the book. It also helps to show certain things like setting and conflict. For example in the beginning of “The Aryan Shopkeeper” it says: “They stood outside Frau Diller’s, against the whitewashed wall”. This gives a visual image of where the setting is taking place in the chapter. Also, all throughout the book Mark Zusak uses imagery to portray the struggle Liesel and the Jews, and Germans go through during World War II.
    In Homers Iliad, he uses the literary structure of imagery a lot to clearly define characters more easily because he doesn’t describe them in great detail. He relies on descriptive word or word phrases for the reader to characterize the people in the poem. For example in the poem Homer write “goddess of the white arms, Hera” (line 55). This gives you a visual image of the goddess Hera and every time you see the words white arms in the description you will most likely think of Hera. The author repeatedly does this with various other characters all throughout the poem and it makes the reader visually grip onto what characters are doing what and what conflicts are going on.
    Similarities in both texts are that they use imagery to set up setting, characters, emotion, and conflict. Also, since both texts are about war it helps portray that type of scenario. They also use similar choices of literary devices such as similes, metaphors, repetition, and imagery.

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  23. Examples of imagery from The Book Thief
    1. "noticing people, or more important, the same people, doing identical things week after week." (162)
    2. "The house was pale, almost sick-looking, with an iron gate and a brown spit-stain door." (170)
    3. "He noticed the pajamaed girl, standing there, in full view." (186)
    Examples of imagery from lliad
    1. "Apollo is so angry, if for the sake of some vow, some hecatomb (a sacrifice to the gods)." (65)
    2. "no man so long as I am alive above earth and see daylight." (88)
    3. "good fighter though you be, godlike Achilleus." (127)

    In the book, The Book Thief, the author Markus Zusak uses imagery to give the readers a better understanding of the book. He describes one of the scenes Liesel's adventures was "noticing people, or more important, the same people, doing identical things week after week." It helps the readers to create an image of people doing the exact same thing in the streets. Also Zusak highlights keys words to embark in the reader's mind to imagine "the same people" doing to same and exact thing as unusual. This helps me to really imagine about a street or a group of people doing identical things and how the people in Germany would not be doing anything else. It helps the reader to understand the lives of the people in Germany because the citizens would be doing the same identical things without change.

    The author of lliad, Homer, uses imagery to give the readers a better understanding of the poem. He wanted to describe the strength and character of Achilleus by describing him as a "good fighter though you be, godlike Achilleus". Achilleus wanted to persuade Agamemnon to return the girl back to Apollo but he describe Achilleus to be godlike and refuses. At first it would not help the reader understand why but it does help the reader to imagine Achilleus as godlike and as a fighter. It helps me to know that Achilleus is a strong and has a special aura like a god. It characterizes Achilleus strength but not intelligence. It helps the reader to understand the characteristics of Achilleus in the poem.

    A similarity I found between these two text uses personification and highlighting key words. I find that when Homer and Markus Zusak uses personification and highlighting key words to create imagery. Homer use personification to describe Achilleus as godlike and Zusak use personification to describe a pale looking house. Both authors also use to highlight key words to use in their imagery. Zusak use same in the text to describe an image of people doing the "same" thing. Homer also uses this strategy to describe Achilleus both a fighter and godlike from "though" as his key word. The similarity between the two authors is the use of personification and highlighting key words to use to create imagery.

    ~Jacky Lee Period 8

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  24. The Book Thief
    "Liesel, from the hallway, could see the drawn face of the stranger, and behind it, the worried expression scribbled like a mess onto Mama." (198)
    "He wasted no time in losing control of the bike, sliding across the ice, and lying facedown on the road." (163)
    "His mouth ripped open. The word flew out, and the word was ax." (165)

    In The Book Thief, Markus Zusak used imagery to deepen the meaning of the feelings of the characters in the book. Liesel was peeking in the kitchen at the Jew and the perplexed expression was described thoroughly with strong diction choices. As "Liesel, from the hallway, could see the drawn face of the stranger, and behind it, the worried expression scribbled like a mess onto Mama"(198). Liesel could describe her mothers face as being intensely worried and you can imagine this phrase through the words,"scribbled like a mess." From this information, you can tell how severe keeping a Jew in your house is when your country is full of Nazis and the author used imagery to describe the characters worry from keeping a Jew from the Nazis.


    The Iliad
    "The corpse fires burned everywhere and did not stop burning." (line 52)
    "First he went after the mules and the circling hounds, then let go a tearing arrow against the men themselves and struck them." (line 50-51)
    "He spoke, and laid his heavy hand on the silver sword hilt and thrust the great blade back into the scabbard nor disobeyed the word of Athene." (line 215-217)

    In the Iliad, imagery is being used to show how the might of the gods and goddesses influence the mortals. Achilles was a demi-god who listens to the word of Athene when she talked to him to calm his anger. After Athene spoke to him, "He spoke, and laid his heavy hand on the silver sword hilt and thrust the great blade back into the scabbard nor disobeyed the word of Athene" (line 215-217). Through the use of imagery, you can see Achilles actions as he sheathed his sword violently and listened to the words of the goddess. Homer uses imagery to highlight the influence the gods have over the mortals.

    The similarities found between the two texts, The Book Thief and the Iliad, were that the usurpers, Hitler and the gods of Olympus, have total control over the citizens and mortals. The citizens and mortals listen to the rulers with absolute obedience yet some also go against their rulers like Hans Hubermann and Agamemnon. Both of the texts also uses literary devices like similes and imagery.

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    1. i dont think u can use the reasoning of simlies, because we havent gone to details about it in class, together. so i think some people (like me) wont really get the through message.

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  25. What to Post:

    You will post three examples of imagery from both texts.

    Book Theif
    -"The light in the window was gray and orange, the color of summer's skin, and his uncli appeared relieved when his breathing disappeared completely."(189)
    -"He followed him over to the right and jabbed him once more and opened him up with a punch that reached his ribs. The right hand that ended him landed on his chin."(191)
    -"His mouth was open and his skin was the color of eggshells. Whiskers coated his jaw and chin, and his ears were hard and flat. He had a small but misshapen nose."(201)

    The Iliad
    -"nor sooner thrust back the shameful plague from the Danaans, until we give the glancing0eyed girl back to her father without price, without ransom."(97-99)
    -"the heart within filled black to the brim with anger frombeneath, but his two eyes showed like fire in their blazing."(103-104)
    -"Come, now, we must haul a black ship down to the bright sea, and
    assemble rowers enough for it" (137-138)

    You will then explain how one example FROM EACH contributes to an understanding of the book it comes from.

    From the book thief
    -"His mouth was open and his skin was the color of eggshells. Whiskers coated his jaw and chin, and his ears were hard and flat. He had a small but misshapen nose."(201)
    --This shows how the man Max is resulted from the hiding and fear. The fear of being hidden all the time, and waiting for rescue. He had to face all the things that happened. All the appearance was from the Great War he was in, and the guilt of hiding an d running from his friends and family and the GERMANS.

    From the Iluad
    -"the heart within filled black to the brim with anger frombeneath, but his two eyes showed like fire in their blazing."(103-104)
    --This represents that the Greeks are furious. It helps us visualize the situation and anger that the Greeks are having. Plus the smell of jealousy and selfishness of the Atreus' son. This will cause the readers to related to love. The times when one would feel the burning passion of hate when a women is tooken away from you.

    Lastly, what similarities do you find between these texts?

    Simmilarities i find between these text are that they use imagery to describe a situation at hand. Imagery is use in both articles when something has to be done. Plus when the story is getting interesting, the author would use decribtive words to express that scence for us.

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  26. Mathew Le
    Period 8

    Three examples of imagery from The Book Thief:
    1)"In one hand, he held his suitcase"(169).
    2)"His fingers smelled of suitcase, metal, Mein Kampf, and survival"(185).
    3)"I'll throw them in the stove or the fireplace"(203).

    Three examples of imagery from Iliad:
    1)"Terrible was the clash that rose from the bow of silver"(line 49).
    2)"If given the fragrant smoke of lambs, of he goats, somehow he can be made willing to beat the bane aside from us"(lines 66-67).
    3)"For a king when he is angry with a man beneath him is too strong, and suppose even for the day itself he swallow down his anger"(lines 80-81)

    Example of each to show understanding:

    In the Book Thief, the quote of Max's possessions shows a better understanding of that chapter as well as the book itself. When the author describes what Max had,he uses imagery for the reader to understand what Max brung with him on his trip to Hans Hubermann's home at Himmel Street. Max brung a suitcase in one hand (169). This shows better understanding of the chapter because the suitcase may hold something very important for Max and/or for Hans Hubbermann. Also in the book Max is a jew who lived in Stuttgart with his mother and at the start of World War II he must go into hiding and while traveling he brung this suitcase that is important to Max's survival.This same literary device is used to show understanding for Homer's Iliad.

    For the Iliad,the author uses imagery also to show the reader meaning of the story. One of the examples used was;"Terrible was the clash that rose from the bow of silver"(line 49). This shows a better understanding of the story because it creates the image that the god Apollo is very angry. Also before this example the author used imagery to describe Apollo's actions when he is angry. Homer described that Apollo came down from the clouds with a lighting bow and arrow shooting at the ground killing anything in its path.Overall, both authors in the Book Thief and Iliad use the same literary device to create a better understanding for their readers to read their stories and between these pieces of literature there are simliarities between them.

    A similiarity I found in both texts is that they use another language in some form in their stories. For example, in the Book Thief the author used some words in german to most likely create a more german like theme for the book while it takes place in Nazi Germany. Also the author used german curse words to describe Liesel's home situation and her foster parents' personalities. The same ideas applies to Homer's Iliad where the author use words to create mood and tone for the setting of the story. For example, Homer used ancient english language like "bidden"(line 74) and "shall" (line 210) to create not just the mood and tone, but to create a more life like image of the time period.In conclusion,a simliarity between these two texts is word choice and language usage.

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  27. Erick Bonilla period 8
    Imagery
    Examples from the book thief
    "They stood outside Frau Diller’s, against the whitewashed wall. Apiece of candy was in Liesel Meming. The sun was in her eyes", (156)
    "The shivering hands. The smell—no, the stench—of guilt. He simply couldn’t bear it again", (161).
    "He wasted no time in losing control of the bike, sliding across the ice, and lying facedown on the road", (164).

    The author Markus Zusak uses imagery in the novel The Book Thief to help the reader understand the text. Imagery is a literary device that helps readers visualize the text. Rudy and Liesel were planning to steal from Otto Sturm, a boy who brought food to the priests every friday. They through water onto the road later becoming ice because of the intense cold. The plan however worked when Otto "wasted no time in losing control of the bike, sliding across the ice, and lying facedown on the road", (164). This piece of evidence helps the reader visualize Liesel and Rudy's plan in action. The reader could visualize a boy "losing control of his bike" and getting severely hurt because of the ice on the road. The reader could see that it must be very cold since the water Rudy threw became ice quickly for his plan to work. Zusak chose to use imagery in this event to show the lengths that Rudy took in order to get food.

    Examples from Iliad
    "The heart within filled black to the brim with anger from beneath, but his two eyes showed like fire in their blazing", (103).
    "her hair was tied back and her dress chocked her body", (155)
    "The horizon was the color of the milk. Cold and fresh",(175).

    Homer uses imagery in his text to help the reader visualize the mood in the text. When Agamemnon's daughter was denied to be given back to him Agamemnon became enraged. Agamemnon's reaction to the denial was anger, his "heart within filled black to the brim with anger from beneath, but his two eyes showed like fire in their blazing", (103). This helped the reader picture just how angry Agamemnon was. They describe his fury as "heart filling with black" and "eyes showing fire".

    Similarities between The Book Thief and lliad are that they both use imagery in there writing. They use imagery in order for the reader to visualize the people and their surroundings not just see letters. Another similarity is that both texts seems to have a similar structure. They are organized in events happening in order. Just like Book Thief lliad seems to be going in order when the story is being told and the indents in paragraphs separate how the order is set up. Lastly these both texts use allusion. They use names or places as a reference in the writing to sort of clarify what they're talking about.

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  28. The narrator of Book Thief "death" mentions that it is hard for him to get a grasp on Hans huberman.
    Why is Hans Huberman sort of avoiding death and staying away from him?
    Erick Bonilla Period 8

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  29. adding on to what i said before to sort of clarify
    what is hans huberman staying alive for? Is there something he needs to do before he dies?

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  30. 1. Example of Imagery from BT
    “When an extra hand grabbed the wire and reefed it away from Rudy Steiner’s pants. A piece was left on the metallic knot” (165-166).
    “Erik Vandenburg would later be found in several pieces on a grassy hill” (175).
    “He was skinny, with soft hair, and thick, murky eyes watched as the stranger played one more song in the heavy room” (179).

    Example of Imagery from Iliad
    “The corpse fires burned everywhere and did not stop burning” (line 52)
    “There is much that lies between us, the shadowy mountains and the echoing sea” (line 153-154)
    “Laid his heavy hand on the silver sword hilt and thrust the great blade back into the scabbard” (line 216)
    2. Markus Zusak uses imagery to help the reader understand the brutality of war. Hans Huberman and Erik Vandenburg became friends during the war. They built a friendship with mutual feelings for survival. However, when Erick Vandenburg was sent to battle, he “would later be found in several pieces on a grassy hill” (175). War is a constant battlefield riddled with blood and despair. This is obvious because Vandenburg was found torn to “several pieces.” Through imagery, the reader can be terrified just as much as the characters in the book. The reader can understand the emotional stress the characters in the book go through. Zusak helps the reader to visualize how brutal war can be through imagery.

    Homer uses imagery to help the reader understand the power a divine figure holds. Apollo’s priestess was stolen by Agamemnon and he refused to give her back. King Apollo was furious so stuck a tearing arrow and “corpse fires burned everywhere and did not stop burning” (line 52). The power of an angered God is terrifying. This is obvious because Apollo found it insulting that a mortal (Agamemnon) would oppose such disrespect towards a divine figure such as himself. Also, through imagery, the reader is helped to understand the brutality of Gods. Because of one mortal, Apollo is in rage and causes destruction. Homer uses imagery to help demonstrate the power a God holds.

    3. Zusak and Homer are similar because they both use imagery to help the reader understand power and brutality. Zusak uses imagery to help the reader understand the brutality of war and how powerful war can simply take away life. Similarly, Homer uses imagery to help demonstrate the brutality and power of Divine figures.

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  31. Mario Joya
    Period 8

    Examples from the Iliad

    “In his heart, carrying across his shoulders the bow and the hooded quiver; and the shafts clashed on the shoulders of the god walking angrily.” (Lines 45-47)

    “The corpse fires burned everywhere and did not stop burning.” (Line 53)

    "Pondering whether to draw from besides his thigh the sharp sword, driving away all those who stood between and kill the son of Atreus." (Lines 185-187)

    Examples from The Book Thief

    "With a clean-shaven face and lopsided yet neatly combed hair he walked out of that building a new man." (159)

    "Hans looked at the knuckles of his right hand and swallowed. He could already taste the error, like a metal tablet in his mouth." (182)

    "His mouth was open and his skin the color of eggshells. Whiskers coated his jaw and chin, and his ears were hard and flat. He had a small but misshapen nose" (201)

    In the Book Thief by Markus Zusak, imagery plays a huge role to contribute a clear picture in the reader’s mind. When he writes "With a clean-shaven face and lopsided yet neatly combed hair he walked out of that building a new man" (159) he shows imagery because the reader could see this image of a “new man” in their mind. I personally saw imagery perfectly clear in this part of the story.

    As well, imagery plays a huge role in The Iliad by Homer. When he explains “In his heart, carrying across his shoulders the bow and the hooded quiver; and the shafts clashed on the shoulders of the god walking angrily” (Lines 45-47) he is trying to reveal an intense image in the reader’s mind. Imagery allowed the reader to realize that Apollo was aggravated and disturbed by the priest’s prayer. The intense scene of the god’s anger is revealed, and not only does it show his wrath but his power as well.

    The similarities I find are diction choices because in both The Iliad and The Book Thief the authors use a form of writing in which certain things aren’t what they seem. They can be referred to as metaphors, allusions, or similes. The similar themes they had so far of course are war. The Iliad is based about war between the Greeks and the Trojans. The Book Thief involves Hitler’s reign referring to world war two.

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  32. Wynter W. pr#8
    Examples of Imagery from Book Thief:
    -The words lolled about in his mouth as he read them (160)
    -Her teeth elbowed eachother for room in her mouth (155)
    -Sweat was Swimming out of his hands (157)
    The author of "Book Thief" uses imagery to explore the theme of fear. Imagery helps the reader understand the emotions of the characters in depth. With out his literary device, the reader wouldn't be able to fully comprehend the characters feelings in that exact moment of the story.
    Examples of Imagery in Iliad:
    -but his two eyes showes like fire in their blazing (line 104)
    -echoing sea (line 154)
    -the heart was divided two ways (line 185)
    In Iliad Homer uses Imagery to show the power and determination of his characters in his epic poem. When he states that one of his characters has fire like blaze in his eyes shower determination and rage. This helps the read to understand how each character feels in the moment of their conflict.

    Simialrities in both Iliad and The Book Thief were that these stories both used imagery to help the reader connect with the characters and their emotions. In Iliad the author used imagery to help the reader know the characters determination,as well as in The Book Thief the author uses imagery to help the reader understand the characters emotions.

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